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Ben

Also, I enjoyed the irony of the fact that you criticised my use of polysyllabics with the word 'polysyllabic'. Try 'long words' next time. :-P

Ben

If they base their teachings on Marx and Deleuze at Ivy League Law Schools, I'm so there!

Which professors are these then...?

charles f. oxtrot

Ben's post ironically is exactly like what ivy league law professors teach their students -- obfuscatory use of polysyllabics in a semi-coherent sentence structure with secret handshakes (via insider lingo) abounding.

Crispin's take on the matter is pretty well spot-on. I practiced law in a large NYC area firm for several years, during which time I watched what I learned from case books morph into how things play out in American state and federal courts as a truly practical matter.

The skills learned by the most sycophantic of the ivy league law-drones are repugnant -- they involve writing briefs and white papers that mirror Ben's comment. Why talk straight when you can turn your sentence on itself and have it ramble for scores of words but ultimately say nothing. The peasant class sits back and basks in the bullshit verbosity, thinking that "all them big words sure in-deee-kate a powerful learnin' sorta thing!"

True intelligence reveals itself in clarity of thought and expression, not in the use of jargon, faux-intellectual cliche, and rank obfuscation.

Ben

Eppur si muove!

Despite being an abstract object/machine/structure the law has discernible effects. I'm not sure that these are just the result of alienated or mystified human agency; it strikes me that the law (like religion) really has achieved a kind of autonomy and we might have to try and construct a post-human alternative (rather than reasserting the constitutive power of human beings) if we are going to really tackle it.

I find the analysis in anti-oedipus by Deleuze and Guattari to be quite suggestive. The analogy between the Law in Lacan with Capital in Marx as a 'true perception of an apparent objective movement' is very evocative, and your post resonated with that for me.

mr.fun

marriotr, don't bogart that joint, man.

now is the time to head back into the Catholic Church, because all of the crazies are into America, Fuck Yeah!

and at least you know what you're getting.

marriotr

I understand, and largely agree. I think thatt here is hope for a reversal of this effect, however. Obama's bizzare statement notwithstanding, has not our understanding of the arbitrary nature of law increased over the past 100 years? Whole movements have set themselves against the formalisms of such beliefs- and I think that these ideas will eventually find their way into the legal establishment. Particularly since I'm now considering law school.

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