one thing i would take as an example of trying not to declare you know what you don't; it's going to take a lot more info to assess whether we found bin laden by 'enhanced interrogation techniques,' or what role torture actually played in the killing. i'm completely opposed to it; i think it's shameful. but whether it yielded key information is not a question to which my moral repugnance is relevant, and i'm going to try to admit that this is what happened if it looks like there's convincing info that it did.