what i'd say about hillary against bernie is that, if you're going to have a democracy, then people's political principles or ideas or ideals should be represented, and not merely manipulated, in political space. and in particular the left side of the political spectrum has been manipulated into voting, over and over, straightforwardly, for oligarchy: precisely for what they most repudiate. y'all can do better, but you have to insist on it.